Evo has left the building
Fans of the show,
I regret to inform you that, effective immediately, I’m ceasing my involvement with Wingin’ It! and all other FarPoint properties. This stems from some ill will that had been brewing with the FPM principals towards me and my actions not on WI!, but specifically on SoSF. Oddly (or naively) enough, I didn’t pick up on the vibes and went trucking along as if everything was fine. Guess it wasn’t.
And for an extra special heaping of bad news: I’m not coming to the Pool Party. Yeah, that really sucks and I feel like I’ve let a lot of you down. However, I can’t in good conscious pretend that things are fine when they obviously are not. So drink lots of beer for me and have a great time. Heck, I may even tune into the live feed.
To those of you who tuned in to the Balticon episode of Wingin’ It! or were in the audience — I hope you enjoyed the show and wish it could have been a better exit. But some things in life you just don’t get to chose.
http://www.michaelandevo.com/adieu-evo-terra-we-wish-you-well/
June 3rd, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Bye Evo. Sorry to see you go.
Good luck to you, and take care of yourself.
June 3rd, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Yeah, that totally sucks. I’m really sorry things turned out like this.
I’m raising a beer and wishing you the best of luck in all your future endevours, Evo.
June 3rd, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Totarry Rame.
June 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
No sir … I don’t like it!
June 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
i have lost faith in humanity. Good luck, Evo. I’m raising my IPA to you
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Jeezopete. I don’t know what’s going on. I just know it seems like the world over here is going to hell in a handbasket.
Crap.
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Wow….
I hope life brings you good things Evo.
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:29 pm
WTF!!! This just isn’t right. Wishing it didn’t have to come to this.
We need our Evo!
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:30 pm
WTF is right. This is a damn shame.
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Huh… Suckkery of the highest order.
Here’s hoping that everything works out for the best, for everyone involved, whatever “the best” ends up meaning to the rest of us.
*chugs DFH 120 IPA*
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Jesus, Evo. That came out of the blue.
I’m hoping there’s some way things can be patched up and we’ll see (hear) you back soon.
If not, then best of luck, best wishes and we’ll miss you !
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:51 pm
I’m totally bummed by this. Speechless. Evo, assuming you check the boards, I hope we see you in another public endeavor and that it is fruitful and fulfilling. I have no doubt the rest of the community you helped to build will want to follow your next great creative enterprise!
Cheers!
June 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pm
it just seems so wrong!
June 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Huh …. Well that was unexpected …
June 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Damn
June 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Are we supposed to be cool with this? Because I for one am not…
Granted I’ve only been listening for the past couple of months but from my perspective I’ve seen you as an integral part of this whole thing. I mean I picked up on some friction but I assumed it was all in good fun. Crap, you’re the reason I got into podcasting.
Hell of a thing to find out about on a Sunday night.
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pm
It’s not gonna be the same without ya, dude.
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Without Evo the podcast network should be called:
FarPOINTLESS media
I don’t know whether I will continue listening.
Craig, Australia
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 pm
WHERE THE FUCK did this come from??? Can’t fix what you don’t know is busted, I guess…
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 pm
I don’t know aobut anyone else, but Ego made WI fun…
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pm
What the hell. Whatever you did Evo I cant believe they got their panties in a wad over it. Everyone knows you as you put it “Drink beer and Make you F***ers laugh” If as you say said something wrong without knowing it they should have pulled you aside and talked to you about it and you guys could try and work it out so it wont happen again. Hopefully the FPM will realize a mistake they made in letting you go and have you come back with no hard feelings. Here is a homemade energy drink laced with an ipa in your favor from me in Birmingham in good health Evo.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 pm
2 words. Holy shit!
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
I expect this at work…people suddenly decide to leave or get shit canned and I find out the next day without ever knowing the reason why.
Anything that starts off as fun and then becomes something more always runs a risk.
I hope that everyone there can still enjoy a quiet non-recorded beer together at some time.
June 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Well, damn. Guess I can go ahead and unsubscribe from a few podcasts. Sorry to see you go, Evo.
June 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 pm
What the… Damn.
June 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pm
What the hell?!? I don’t wanna not hear Evo anymore! It’s Michael and *Evo*’s Wingin’ It! Evo is an integral part of the FPM community and the sudden removal of him like this is going to be devastating. I was upset enough once we found out about the end of Wingin’ It on New Years, but this is worse.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:13 am
Evo has always been one of the big attractions of the Farpoint podcasts and I will certainly miss him.
Shame!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:13 am
Holy shit! For serious? But you’re the best thing about SoSF! My mind, it is reeling.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:29 am
In the words of he who shall not be named…
Woah!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:45 am
dude you do a comunity service
you make the internet fun
you give structure to the world placeing frazes like “go eagle go” in the corect setting… ie after a coupple of beers when everything sounds thet bit cooler
you released clitgirl on bolticon not once but twice
you educate and entertain.
you cannot stop
pleas for the love of all things throthee continue youre good work
it doesnt have to be with far point
but it does have to be with cool ppl
and in a place where i can find it
all the best
hope to here from you soon
June 4th, 2007 at 6:47 am
i’ve been listenning to sosf for year and a half and wi for a year now…
i think im the first (if not the only) listener from israel and i must say that if not for funny comments of evo.. i wouldn’t like the show. he is the engine who dare move it all..
June 4th, 2007 at 6:53 am
Evo, you were the professional voice on the show! Mike, bless his heart, is kind of a dipwad and NEEDS to have a ton of co-hosts. You, you carried the show! You were the driving force (at least in FRONT of the mike. I understand Mike M. was/is the master of the electronics.)
All the other voices on the FPM are fine and all, but the only voice integral and necessary was yours, with Summer a very close second. (Without Summer, Mike would simply be some drooling and babbling fanboy embarassing himself and us on interviews. Please god at least let Summer stay!)
Evo, go on to bigger and better, be sure you somehow let everyone know when, and if, you have a new project!
June 4th, 2007 at 7:32 am
My first reaction, was shock and depression. Then I tried to analyze why. Would I be as upset if my favorite, say, radio show duo split up? No. The nature of podcasting makes it a lot more personal. These aren’t just some guys we listen to–all of y’all are like our friends. THAT’s what’s making this suck so bad.
But, the whole point of podcasting is to have fun, and Evo, it sounds like you are not having fun anymore. I wish you the best, and really hope everything works out for everyone involved.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:45 am
This is not good news. I’m sorry to hear your friendship hasn’t been strong enough to get through this. Here’s hoping that time can mend this rift.
To both Evo and the FPM crew, I hope to continue listening and enjoying all of your future endeavours whether you do so together or apart.
Peace.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:14 am
This is a sad day. It is very hard to imagine podcasting with out Michael and Evo. You made a great team.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:24 am
Well, this should make the last 30 some odd episodes of winging it a bit more … sober.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:34 am
and that r. dickson is exactly why i might not listen…
June 4th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Dang. That’s….will you be at Dragon*Con? I guess not.
Sorry to hear it. This sucks.
June 4th, 2007 at 9:13 am
I hate to hear that. I really enoyed listening to you on WI and SOSF these past few months. I hope to hear you somewhere else soon.
June 4th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Ouch…there’s no doubt that Evo’s departure sucks, but to read it in here the rest of the FPM crew might as well not even get out of bed in the morning. Lets have a little decorum in here. As with anything there are two sides to the story and you haven’t even heard all of one side yet.
Evo was an integral part of Michael and Evo’s Wingin’ It and SoSF, but those are really the only two shows he contributed to. Almost all the actual work of running the shows fell on Michael. It was Mike, Summer and Jeffrey who conceived of and built FPM.
Now to most of you WI and SoSF may be the only two shows that matter to you, but don’t shred people who pour their creative hearts and souls out each day for something you really know nothing about.
::dons asbestos suit::
June 4th, 2007 at 9:38 am
The fans should enjoy at least one last hurrah. Even a short goodbye segment for Evo would be appropriate.
I won’t give up on farpoint, but I imagine I’ll smile a little less, and my world will be a little less happy.
Thank you Evo Terra for all the enjoyment you have brought my world.
Hey what is Evo’s real name anyway?
June 4th, 2007 at 9:44 am
‘Tis a sad day.
I’ve been listening to the Dragon Page for a LONG time. I was a listener prior to WI and prior to SoSF. I remember downloading the episodes manually and listen to Evo say “Are you still downloading these shows by hand?” and thinking, well, yes.
I did several promos for all the shows and it was becuase of Michael AND Evo that I got into Podcasting. They are both (or were I haven’t e-mailed either in some time) very approchable people. They made you feel welcome to the community and would answer any question no matter how inane it might be. Evo even helped me with getting my podcast feed working.
I know the dynamic of all FPM shows will now have a sever shift in tone. The shows were good without Evo (when he was away at a Hockey game or whatever) but it was never the same show. Evo provides that over-the-top personality that game the show its edge. Be it poking fun at Mike, or even himself, Evo gave the show character. That character will be missed.
I, personally, am still in a funk over the loss of Joe. To me, his wit made WI! the best show to listen to. Now, with the loss of Evo, it will never be the same show. Summer has been strangely absent and her presence is missed. I love ya Mike, but I don’t see WI! carrying on with only you and ‘crowd’.
It won’t surprise me to see WI! shelved. Dragon Page hasn’t had Evo on it for a LONG time and his appearance only cursory at best. Now with Mike and Mike there, that show is fine. SoSF I honestly haven’t listen to in over a year. Time just didn’t permit another hour show in my schedule and that one never really did it for me. Call me a blasphemer, but I didn’t like SoSF after the first year. It became too tame when I would listen to WI! first.
I hope http://funanymore.com will still be active after this, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t. I wish you the best Evo. You will be missed.
Mike and the rest, I also wish you the best. I will continue to listen, but with a heavier heart.
J.R.
June 4th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Awww….Mr. Terra - I will miss hearing your lovely voice! Good luck to you and keep in touch!
kari@serenityfirefly.com
June 4th, 2007 at 10:08 am
When I first got my Ipod about 2 years ago, I did because I wanted to listen to podcasts when away from my PC. Specifically, I wanted to listen to two people: Leo Laporte and Evo Terra.
As many others listeners, I’m shocked and sad to hear this news, but I will not be angry without knowing both sides of the story, and even then I might not need to be. I’m pretty sure Evo will be back to the podcasting world at some point, and as for FPM, granted, the shows will not be the same, but there is a chance they will still be good. Mike, Summer and the rest of the gang are more than capable to keep the shows on course.
Good luck, Evo!
June 4th, 2007 at 10:43 am
Hey, I would not for a minute discredit what other people bring to FPM - I keep living in denial, like a kid whose parents are splitting up - “Can’t we all just get along?” I know that it’s not possible for some adults to make up, it’s not possible for some folks to work together. I accept it rationally. But my emotions tell me differently - and will until they don’t anymore, I guess.
June 4th, 2007 at 10:43 am
I think it’s all been said but. WTF!?!?! Damn, We’ll miss you Evo, It won’t be the same without you. This was kinda out of the blue to all of us. I for one can’t inagine what Evo could have done on Slice to offend anyone. WI I could almost believe but SLICE?!?!!! The way I see it Evo’s job on slice was to make snarky comments about the news stories and such. I’m going to have to go back over all the slices I have now and see if I can work out WTF is going on.
Evo. Good luck in everything you do.
June 4th, 2007 at 10:59 am
Evo,
I’ll miss you here. I won’t stop listening, I won’t stop participating in the chatroom during the live feed. I’m not going to strip myself of FPM because of this.
Shit happens. And Evo always said that he was going to keep doing it until it wasn’t fun anymore.
Just make sure we know what the next fun project is. I’ll check that one out when it comes up.
Mike and the rest of the crew,
I look forward to the next 30ish weeks…
My hope is that friendships haven’t been severed/shattered over whatever this is… because while I’ll miss Evo on the show, it’d be a damned shame to think that ties have been severed permanently on a personal level too.
June 4th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Evo leaving FPM?
That can only mean one thing…
Anyone know when Keanu is moving into his new offices in Farpoint Media?
But seriously…
What will be next month:
- April: Joe dies
- May: Wingin It is decided to podfade
- June: Evo leaves FPM
Please… Somebody tell me that this is just a cruel joke (and if just one of these things can be reversed, get rid of April)
Evo, if somewhen in the next weeks this is revealed to be a joke, prepare for some VERY angy German to visit you as soon as I am able to come over.
Otherwise, good luck to all parties involved, I guess I’ll have to watch in two directions from now.
June 4th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Wow… that is bad news. I wish you the best in future endeavors, and likewise for the rest of the FPM crew. I really enjoyed meeting all ya’all 6mo ago, and am sorry things ended so unfortunately. Hopefully most of the gang can still remain friends, and the bitterness can be left in the beer.
June 4th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
damn I knew I should have gone to balticon this year for wingnit. good luck evo
I’ll miss you and your bitter snark, but hope that the rest of farpoint media carries on.
June 4th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Well, that was well and truly out of left frakking field. I am truly sorry to hear this news, and rather shocked, as I had definitely not picked up on ANY kind of tension, let alone any change in Evo’s behavior, in listening to the last few months of SOSF and WI.
I started listening when Wash died, having never heard of you guys until the hoorah on The Signal - of course I disliked Evo intensely, at first, but eventually he and Joe became the reasons I continued to listen. Now…well, we’ll see.
Good luck to everyone, on both sides of this. I’ll continue to check out your various works. I hope that time will heal.
June 4th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
The one thing to wait for is this week’s episodes — he posted this after finishing the recording over the weekend… Anyone listening to the live feed able clarify if anything “interesting” happened?
My guess is Evo’s snarky news comments (especially the Mike Myers thing from Balticon) upset someone important.
June 4th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
This sucks.
June 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Michael,
Evo was not in the studio this weekend, and I didn’t ask where he was. Everything else seemed perfectly “normal”, whatever the hell that means when applied to Draco Vista Studios!
June 4th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Is this a joke?
It had better be.
If it’s not there had better be an explanation on this week’s Wingin’ It! or that may well be the last FPM podcast I listen to. “FPM’s principals”? What the frak does that mean?
June 4th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Well done you have managed to kill Wingin It and well ahead of schedule
June 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Now now. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, make yourself a cup of tea/slice of cake/bowl of ice cream/pint of beer, and relax with http://www.cuteoverload.com/ !
Evo didn’t leave to make you angry. He left because he felt he had to. At least, I’m assuming so from the post he made. I know just as much as the rest of ya’ll. But there is *no need* for the nastiness I’m seeing, and frankly, I’m disappointed in that. It’s one thing to express your dismay that Evo’s leaving. It’s another thing to be down right mean to FPM. So let’s try to rein it in and keep any nastiness to your personal blogs, ok?
Let’s all get along and have a wonderful tea party here on the blogs, the way it should be! ♥
June 4th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Hey Evo:
Good Bye…..You Crazy Son of a Bitch.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
Adios su hijo loco de la perro. Salud, buen suerte y buen IPA.
And hoping the fun keeps rolling for the rest of us,
Chris the Fixed Kitty
June 4th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
If this is a joke, it’s not funny. The FPM family can’t find a compromise with their differences? Come on guys, everyone has their spats here and there. Step back and take a few deep breathes and talk it out.
The great thing about this family is that everyone was unique and brought something different to the shows. I really enjoyed the different personalities and whether you knew it or not, you all complimented each other in one way or another. It’s been a total blast listening to all of you.
Evo, I’m sorry to hear you go. My best to you and FPM.
June 5th, 2007 at 12:25 am
Blessings to everyone involved !
I did not see this coming at all but I’m not going to clam that from my chair in Sacramento I have any idea what is going on . Hell most of the time I’m not sure what happened in the other room. I have been on both sides of situations like this and I tell you its so easy to draw lines in the sand. Its too easy to make someone the bad Guy . and most of the time there really is not one . its actually not of my business.
I for one will continue to listen and keep up with all of Evo’s Endeavors. I wish that Evo could stay but i understand how there are times that leaving is the best Choice .
June 5th, 2007 at 2:32 am
Wait…. Dude….. What?
I know I have been a bit behind on WI (two months, to be exact) but Now I gotta go listen to find out what happened!
I will stick by ya Evo…. *franticly adds evo to every network I have*
June 5th, 2007 at 3:53 am
still upset that the evo is all gon
June 5th, 2007 at 6:10 am
Evo is my Yoda! Tis a sad day in podcasting for sure!
June 5th, 2007 at 6:18 am
This is really too bad, and I wish Evo well in whatever projects he turns his attention to in the future.
I also wish Mike and the others at FPM well. Whatever happened, this can’t be easy for them either.
There really is no need for all the finger pointing and nastiness here. The situation sucks to be sure, but without any of us knowing what really happened there is little point in taking sides and getting upset over speculation.
Good luck to all involved, hopefully this will lead to new and better things for all of you.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:30 am
I only heard about this last night, and I am still in total shock. I’ve been listening to FPM podcasts since 2005, and I had the pleasure of meeting Michael and Evo for the first time over Memorial Day weekend at Balticon.
Seeing the rapport and friendship between these two, I am at a loss as to what might have caused this. I just hope that some sort of reconciliation is still possible and that we haven’t heard the last cry of “Hey, all you crazy sons of bitches!”
But if this really is the end, then I wish everyone the best possible luck in all future endeavors. You guys are the greatest, and you deserve every last drop of happiness and success.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:24 am
Hmmm….. Well. This sucks.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:51 am
He chusheng zajiao de zanghuo!
Sorry to hear it man. I’ll raise a beer for you.
But, you’re not dead yet, so just one beer. I will make it a good beer.
Don’t bother with ill-will man, it will just slow you down.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:12 am
Wait, what?!?
Evo, so sorry to see you go. You definitely brought an addictive quality to WI and SoSF that kept me coming back, I hope this isn’t the last we hear from you.
Be well,
Ari B.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:46 am
Non, non NON airwolf.
June 5th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Damn.. what a thing to find waiting for you in a feed. take care, Evo, and you know that any new projects you start up, I’ll be among the first to go take a peek. It does truly suck, and it’s a bit hard to imagine the core FPM shows without Evo around, but there’s a lot of great content in the FPM network that really had little or nothing to do with Evo (Variant Frequencies, With Class, Podholes, Dragonhearth, and several others come immediately to mind), so it’s not like I’ll stop listening to any of those either. But it does still feel weird to thing of FPM without Evo around somewhere in the background (probably being an ass).
Life goes on, though, and I wish everyone, both Evo and the whole FPM gang, the very best, now and in the future. Just keep the great content coming, together or separately, and I won’t have anything to complain about.
June 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Well, forget the countdown, may as well close up WI now.
June 5th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
I haven’t been around for a few weeks (in the Live Feed) and I felt as if I was drifting away from WI and Podcasting in General but I need to admit that this has finally put the nail in the coffin for WI
To tell you the truth, I wasn’t even expecting it to last to the end of the year, if you know something is drying up then why try to string it out. Maybe that is why Evo has called it a day
June 5th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Thanks y’all. The rest of us appreciate the support.
I love Evo to death, but we have fun without him too ya know. Who knows, maybe Tim’s been hiding his full obnoxiousness under a barrel and can set it free now. Maybe Brian . . . er, Brian is too much of a sweetheart so, um, maybe Charlie, yeah Charlie will start screaming and ranting . . . or not. Krazy Kris? Probably not. Let’s see, I could be snarkier. Or um, I dunno.
Well, we still have fun every week anyhow! So there!
June 5th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Amongst the cooler things about podcasts, especially the “freestyle” sort such as Wingin’ It, is that: a) they’re free b) they’re completely unpredictable, and c) they’re frequently funny as hell. Evo’s loss means that a particular voice will no longer be there, and if that’s the only voice you want to hear, then follow it where you may.
I’ll miss Evo personally (as my trips to Draco Vista were essentially my only contact with him and Sheila and NJ, great people all), and I’ll miss his brand of intello-snark on the show. But fer chrissakes, he’s not the only person on the planet who can crack a joke and podcast it. Evo would no doubt be the first person to cry “IDIOT” at some of the the lemming-like sentiments that some responders seem to be portraying here. I’m reminded of “Life of Brian”:
Brian: “You are all individuals!”
Crowd (in unison): “Yes! We are all individuals!”
Individual: “I’m not…”
You don’t need Evo screaming it at you to continue being crazy sons of bitches.
My two pennies, submitted.
June 5th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Charlie, you said it better than I could have. Yeah, I’ll miss Evo, too, but I’ve never listened to an Evo-less episode and thought “Wow, this would have been so much better if only Evo had been there.” I love Evo’s input to the shows, but SoSF and WI are much more than one person. I certainly wish Evo the best.
June 5th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Wow ! That sucks Evo. all I can say is I hope you find what you are looking for. You and mike got the podcasting bug in me started and your book is a great sorce of info that I needed when I started. I hope to hear you in the “podio sphear” soon! All the best and thanks for the laughts!
June 5th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Honestly if you didn’t see this coming your blind. When the crew announced their planned podfade, I started to think when did the show “Jump the Sharkâ€Â. I would say the Shark was Jumped a few weeks before DragonCon last year. Shows before then were better. There have been some high points like Mur’s clit essay, but as a hole the show seemed to be missing the mark. For the longest time we had this team of four. Summer, Mike, Evo and Joe. The sexy voice, the tech guy, the mouth, and the everyday guy. There was a balance or a formula. And it worked. First Summer was, absent a few episodes, then Evo made an announcement that he won’t be on for the next few episodes. Then Joe made his announcement, and Evo was back. It seemed they all pulled together for Joe’s sake. Through out the whole series of events Mike has been there holding Wingin’ It together.
During the live feed from the last Wingin’ It episode, Mike seemed distracted. The announcement of their planned podfade was a clear sign, “it wasn’t fun any moreâ€Â. We should all thank Mike for holding Wingin’ It together this long. The fact is the crew really seems to be having more fun doing the Babylon 5 Podcast than doing Wingin’ It. As far as the future of Wingin’ It, I will listen to it till it’s end. I wish Evo the best, but Wingin’ It wasn’t just Evo. Hopefully in the remaining episodes we can transfer some of the fun the crew has doing the Babylon 5 Podcast to the Wingin’ It shows. Also maybe we will see the return of som
June 5th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
some of favorites like TD-0013 and his wife, or episodes with Karen from Kalifonia.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
If it’s not fun anymore, then it’s time to stop. I’m just sorry that it’s stopped being fun.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Mark in St. Louis said: I’ve never listened to an Evo-less episode and thought “Wow, this would have been so much better if only Evo had been there.â€Â
To each his own, I suppose, but I have thought this at least once during each and every Evo-less episode of Wingin’ It I’ve listened to.
June 5th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
While I like most of the snark and wit that Evo brings to the shows, I’m not terribly torn up about him leaving. I actually like most of the Evo-less shows, since they tended to be geekier and less offensive. But, as Dave noted, to each his own. And, to each her own.
Hats off to you, Evo, for your dramatic exit. I hope you find other fun projects to do.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Way to insult the audience there Charlie.
I don’t know about anyone else but the show to me has always been “Michael and Evo’s Wingin’ It” (at least since it stopped being a product of the Dragonpage). Radio shows (and podcasts) develop a “voice” and the voices of Wingin’ It were Michael and Evo. The co-stars were Summer and Joe. Sorry but the rest of you, for that particular show, are extras. It’s not about “cracking jokes” - it’s about the personality that a show has.
I’m sure you all produce wonderful podcasts of your own but since none of them interest me, I’ve not listened to them (except GeekFu but let’s face it, that’s not a Farpoint product).
I was looking forward to the podfade to see how a “planned retirement” would work for a podcast. I thought Michael and Evo were a great team, one of “the” great teams of podcasting. Now that team is broken; is there a point to dragging it all out?
Very rarely did I find Evo offensive. Sometimes I found him brash, and sometimes he said stuff with which I did not agree. But I always found him entertaining.
Admittedly, I have not yet listened to the latest show and I’ll give it a chance. Maybe I shall find redemption.
June 6th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Didn’t mean to insult you–or anyone else–there, Jed.
The “voice” of Wingin’ It has evolved tremedously since I first took a seat between Joe and TD0013 to listen to “Duel of the Fates” and call out time codes for bleeping f-bombs before we heard one of Mur’s essays. Yes, Evo and Mike have been a part of that evolution, but so have many, many other folks. Go back and take a gander at say, Show 35 or 42. The “personality” is completely different from, say, show 98 or 103, regardless of Evo’s presence or absence.
My point was that some vocal people are acting like the show is impossible without Evo, like he was the only thing there. No, I’m not arguing that we “extras” (who’s insulting who there?) are crucial, but what always HAS been crucial is the chemistry between all of the people in the studio (and yes, Mike & Evo’s chemistry was classic stuff). Evo’s “Cult cast”, while very interesting indeed, doesn’t pull in nearly the number of fans as WI. Wingin’ It has always been a smart, funny party, and a party isn’t possible with only one person (and it’s not that great with only two or four). Until the end of its run WI will continue to evolve, and you’re welcome to come along for the ride or not, as you see fit. I truly do not believe pointing that out constitutes an insult.
June 6th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Bummer.
Sorry to see you go Evo, best wishes on your new endeavours!
June 6th, 2007 at 3:10 am
*checks calendar*
Well it isn’t April, where did this come from? I tend to half listen to SoSF and WI while writing so I may have missed out on some subtext, but what the hell? And I listen to Wingin’ It primarily for Evo’s comedy, so I’ll see how the next couple of episodes go then…
June 6th, 2007 at 8:06 am
Jed - Actually Geek Fu Action Grip is part of the Far Point Media family of podcasts.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Sad to hear? Yes. Is it going to keep me from listening? No. Is this jumping the shark? No. Will the show still be good? Yes, how can it not be? It is a group effort, and I know that I laugh at and with everyone on the show.
June 6th, 2007 at 9:52 am
Gonna miss you, Evo.
I’ll keep an ear out for your next project, and I really hope there is one. Same goes for the fascinating project Sheila and I talked about Sunday night at Balticon.
But seriously; I’m still going to listen to the last episodes of WI. I’m still going to continue listening to my other favorite podcasts from FPM. Everyone on the crew has certain strengths, and I’m not gonna shrink each individual contribution simply because I’m upset over the loss of one.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:03 am
I got Charlie’s back here….
His earlier comment was right on the money. Jed has every right to disagree. As also said in this thread, to each his or her own. Evo is a talent, no doubt. Will WI be as good of a show without Evo? Probably not, but that doesn’t mean it will not continue to be a high quality show. I know I will continue to listen.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:31 am
I have to agree with Charlie as well.
Is Evo’s leaving going to be a blow to the shows? Yes of course, but like all shows there are cast changes Look at shows like ER, Law and Order ect ect I’m not sure….but I doubt there are too many folk left on those shows that were a part of the original casts, and yet the shows are STILL on the air. Some will like the changes some won’t and that’s cool to each their own ya know. However the shows WILL still go on and the shows will STILL be fun and entertaining to listen to.
Yeah I am going to miss Evo being on the shows too, (Hell Mike and Evo are part of the reson we were inspired to do our show) but there are plenty of damn cool folks still around. I wish Evo the best is whatever he does and I really hope to hear him podcasting again soon. As for Mike, Summer and the rest of the FPM crew …. I have no doubt that they will still keep running strong on the shows and still be keeping our ears entertained for quite a long while to come.
June 6th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
My two cents:
Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly… I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
Champ Kind: It jumped up a notch.
Ron Burgundy: It did, didn’t it?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
Ron Burgundy: I saw that. Brick killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you’re probably wanted for murder.
June 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Brian: I am aware Geek Fu is part of the Farpoint media family. However IIRC, it didn’t start that way - it was an independent production by Mur and still is, isn’t it, but under the FPM umbrella name? Or is Mike actually producing (ie working the board) for it?
I listened to the Voicemail show and I shall eat humble pie and say I enjoyed it. One thing I noticed is that people who often remained in the background - perhaps due to Evo’s strong personality - had a chance to shine. Even Michael spoke more, though I guess he had to do so. Brian Brown - unfortunately ever time I hear or read that name I think of the Australian actor - definitely, to my ear, would make a great co-host.
June 6th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Jed - Okay I wasn’t sure at what you were getting all that’s all. Most of the FPM shows are done on their own, sometimes sent in pieces to Mike for him to assemble or often he gets the finished products. Mike runs the board for Podholes, Babylon 5, Dragonpage Cover to Cover, Wingin’ It, Slice of Scifi and… probably others I’m forgetting.
I’m glad that you enjoyed the shows and I hope everyone continues to do so. I will be stepping up to do what I can to co-host but honestly WI at this point is a team effort like Charlie stated. I have no desire to be Evo or copy Evo’s style, I would much rather go with my own style that is true to me.
June 6th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Farewell Evo & hope to hear you again online real soon. To the rest of the FPM crew, best of luck with the future. Not sure I’ll be staying subscribed to WI! & SoSF… just won’t be the same. Time will tell.
I, for one, hope we get to find out the reasons for this break up but I’m realistic enough to know we probably never will. Still, who wouldn’t like to hear both sides of the story… bet it would make an interesting podcast!
June 7th, 2007 at 6:21 am
Well, This is shocking news indeed!
Evo will be missed, no doubt. Best of luck to you Evo, and hopefully we’ll see your creative endeavors again soon!
Now, on to the Farpoint family:
I have to agree here with Charlie. There’s just times when things change, and you can’t anticipate that change. Someone also made the point in a post that TV shows like ER and Law and Order have gone through massive cast changes, and yet still manage to deliver great content to the folks who enjoy these shows. I expect that Mike, Summer, and the gang will continue to provide not only the shows we’ve come to love, but also enhance those with a new infusion of creativity that will make these shows stand on their own.
The ‘Cast of Thousands’ as someone put it, was one of the reasons I actually enjoyed WI. Yeah, I miss Joe. Hell everyone does. But he’s wasn’t my entire reason for listening. Neither was Evo.
Mike AND Evo were the people who inspired me to start my own show, which is now on indefinite sabbatical due to real life issues, and a changing of the guard for a co-host as well. Am I giving up? HELL NO, and neither will FPM.
Will I miss Evo being a Crazy sonsabitch on WI? yeah, of course I will. But, there’s still more good stuff out there in WI, SoSF, and the other Far Point Media shows. I’ll be here, and listening…
June 7th, 2007 at 7:30 am
*sitting here hoping the cast of thousands remark was not referring to the size of my ass*
June 7th, 2007 at 9:37 am
No! No! Your ass is only a cast of hundreds!
June 7th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Oh man, I don’t think I ever seen this many comments on any FPM show, with a huge exception to Deadpan of course. DEADPAN IS THE WAY.
June 7th, 2007 at 11:47 am
And the FIRST EVER Fan Show which was Show 69 in July of 2006, check it out, something like 1400 posts
June 7th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Umm, Ian, that’s 1786 with a goal of 2k by the Podfade. Some of us like to chill there when the drama gets too intense elswhere…
June 7th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
When I want saccharine, I’ll go find some shoujo anime/manga or Harry Potter podcasts to partake of. I enjoyed the insane chemistry the show had when Evo made great catalystic commentary, and feel it will be robbed of the flavor, much as the Rubinator was, without him. So while I’ll still listen every so often to the Farpoint crew’s antics, I’m no longer the fan I was. I do wish everyone well, despite my disappointment, but really wish that whatever caused the rift might be resolved.
Fare ye well, ya crazy sonuvabitch . . .
June 7th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
I’ve said much of my thoughts on the boards. Needless to say, I will miss Evo and his brand of humor. FPM will go on and I’ll be there, but I will miss the team of Mike & Evo.
Here’s to Evo. May that crazy son’bitch remain a snarky podcasting fool.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Jed,
Yes, Geek Fu Action Grip is older than Wingin’ It as a podcast, and started out as her own thing.
Mur began reading her essays on WI, reruns of essays, if you will, after she contacted the guys about how big a fan she was of the geeking that was on WI’s early shows. The only reason her show count is lower than WI is because she had several longish hiatuses while she was writing her novels.
So, you could say that Mur stepped up the level of geeking on the show, which at the time was enjoyed by many at the time as a show that was a “geek fest amongst friends with beer to chat about stuff we didn’t have time to talk about on Slice or C2C”.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Well crap. Seems I’m late to the party again… I’ve been enjoying the hell out of WI! sisnce I started listening to it (at episode 102), and this kinda sucks. I was just starting to get used to the zaniness, and it goes and changes on me
June 9th, 2007 at 6:47 am
I have to admit to having unsubscribed to “WI” almost a year ago. When I became a listener to “Slice” I wanted to give “WI” a try but ultimately found _listening_ to other people drink was terribly uncompelling. (I also found a distinct “insiderish” quality to “WI” that was offputting)
All this being said I do enjoy “Slice of Scifi” and Terra’s contribution to it. We should wish him the best in his future endeavors.
Farpoint Media (or whomever maintains this blog) should be lauded for allowing this thread to continue.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:48 am
This really sucks, Evo was great, kind of like a cross between Leo Laport and
TIm Henson of Distorted View, edgy, yet smart. The loss hurts Wingin’ It but I agree with Charlie the beer guy, he’s not the whole show. I’m not surprised by this, I thought I detected tension on some of the Slice voice mail shows; but it’s a great show that I will continue to listen to.
As for Wingin’ It, that’s not the type of show you listen to while surfing the web. It goes on my mp3 player and comes with me when I hike or any time I’m running around it’s just that type of show.
Keep on trucking, if Farpoint can survive the loss of Joe if can most certainly survive this much less sobering loss.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:56 am
“…well…you…you can’t.” — Mal Reynolds, Serenity
June 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Drag…
June 10th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
It’s been a good time Evo.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
I am sorry to see Evo leave the podcasts as he is an intelligent speaker and fun to listen to, but I am even more sorry that this seems to be a rift in a long time friendship between Evo and Mike. This is inferred from Evo no longer coming to the pool party. That sucks even more. Business is business, but good friends are very hard to find.
I have listened to SoSF and WI since the very early days when SoSF was the news and WI was the scifi geeking and had great skits submitted each week and email was part of the show and Summer participated (can you say sexy voice?) . I really enjoyed WI back in those days and agree the current WI show is an insider centric show. But then I guess as a longtime listener I may be an insider. I would love to see SoSF go back to being the news show with WI being the snarky deep geeking.
I listen to many podcasts, but for some reason I feel like a part of FPM even though I have only conversed with Mike once via email. The loss of Joe was like a family member passing, (I never met the guy but listened to him weekly) and now with Evo leaving the franchise I feel like I need to do something. But there is nothing I can do, except hope that the rift closes and they resume the level of friendship they once had.
Brian, (who will be driving through Phoenix the week after the pool party) Dad always said I was a day late and a dollar short.
June 11th, 2007 at 8:41 am
Just learned the news. Gonna miss you Evo.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:09 am
Will miss you, I hope you do another podcast where you get to be yourself!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Well this is sad news. Im gonna miss you big time.
It was you who got me listening to podcasts. For that I owe you a big thanks!
I still have and use the drinking game coasters that i designed. When I have a pint, your name will always be under the glass!
Thanks for all the good times!
June 13th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Hey to everybody…
Having lived through a collapse of a fan club in the late 80’s, I know that things can get weird. I also know that, years later, those things that were so VERY important later cannot be remembered.
I also know that the death of friend or family can alter your perceptions.
My advice might be to take a step back and regroup, talk it out, and decide what you are going to do. But, it is obviously too late for that.
Evo, take it easy… Mike, Summer, and everyone else… you too. I’ll still be here, listening…
June 14th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Actually, I’ve been listening to WI and SoSF since right around the “Serenity” debacle, and I was just wondering when Evo would get around to making this kind of announcement. No offense to Evo, of course. It’s just that he clearly had other priorities that prevented him from being fully engaged week to week, and the shows had more or less moved on without him. I’ve been more shocked by his presence on the show than his absence, and that goes back months. I certainly hope that he moves on to success in his own ventures, and that time will heal whatever wounds might have brought the end about. As for FPM, I’ve already rolled with enough changes for this to be just another one to accept.
June 18th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Best of luck to all. I have been listening from near the beginning and it was your show and the interaction between Mike and Evo that got me hooked on podcasting. It started with dragon page and grew.
My hope is that those involved will remember that the the important things are the friendships we develop and those that care about us. I’m sorry to see this happen to people who were a part of my life for the past several years.
I will still listen and I wish everyone well
June 20th, 2007 at 6:30 am
Yea
I know that I have to listen to Podcast novels in order for them to make sense, but wingin’ it ?
I miss a couple of shows come back w/out catching up.
everythings screwed up, soap opera style.
I had to hear about the break from Tee Morris: and he only mentioned it because he was upset that Evo Bailed on him~
Maybe its that famous Az heat, makes people jumpy.
Maybe a move to a higher elevation?
Jay from Jerusalem
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Not much I can add or say other than I really enjoyed evo’s presence. I think he kept the shows on topic and on track. I for one wasn’t enjoying how the shows changed and all the new cast being introduced. No offense to Brian and Debbie and the rest but you guys aren’t the reason I got hooked.
I think it shows in how many people have quit contributing to the show that it was going down-hill. I’m glad that Sci-fi will become a part of the WI show again. It was missed. All the sex talk crap was getting old. If I wanted geek sex talk I would subscribe to a show much better at it.
I also felt like the new people on the show were all sort of generic. Everyone agrees with everyone and Evo was our only person to stand up and not be such a Lemming.
I will continue to listen to Slice, till it gets worse than it seems to be getting. But I will drop the rest of the shows. I think with Evo leaving that was the last straw for me.
I do wish you all the best and luck though. Thanks for the good shows, guys!!
June 24th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Hey after being away on holiday for a few weeks and getting bogged down with work, I was stunned to hear the news, Evo you will be missed so I raise my beer to you and wish you all the best!
June 25th, 2007 at 8:43 am
That is very sad news indeed.
Evo, i wish you the very best and hope to hear from you again in the future in some way or form.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:39 am
I just rechecked this because today I unsubscribed form SoSF and CtC. I only lasted 3 shows on 3D. I had at least 14 of each show in backlog, and that decided me. I cant put it all down to Evo leaving. Joe’s sad departure made just as big an impact on the shows I felt. Maybe one day I will re-listen. Till then - keep having fun!!
September 14th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
so many things happening in the FPM universe. the passing of Joe. the departure of Evo. :::sigh::: i’ve been listening to you guys since before podcasting started. i used to listen to the streaming audio from KFYI on saturday nights (when it was working…which was about half the time). right now i’m so overloaded with podcasts and have had to cut back on the ones i dont enjoy as much as i used to. i have to say that this will include CtC, SoSF, With Class and now, 3D. i still enjoy B5 and Mystic Ninjas, though.
i certainly dont HATE you guys. it just seems to be a bit of a drag listening to these shows now. perhaps i just need to take a break from them. i’ll keep the subscriptions to the feeds and listen to shows that have interesting interviews. but, for now, i’m giving it a rest.
September 16th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Hey Evo, rest assured that you did a great job on Slice and WI. I have listened from the first show and can say that you brought something new and refreshing to the sci-fi community with a great podcast. Thanks for all that you have done. Best of luck, hang in there, and…GET YUR ASS BUSY WITH YOUR OWN PODCAST, Dude!
September 30th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Well, I seem to have to to WI long after it has already ended, so I’m thinking that nobody is going to see this, but… I’m not kidding when i say I am in tears. Well, not that you will see it, but good luck Evo.
December 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
After having time to stew over it, I realize the thing that is missing for me when it comes to Cover2Cover, WinginIt3D, and even Slice, is, admittedly, Evo. Unfortunately it is NOT like Law & Order, but it’s like Saturday Night Live, back in the day, losing Eddie Murphy. It’s like ER losing George Clooney, or more importantly, losing Anthony Edwards. It’s like Rambo being played by Orlando Bloom. It just lacks “It.”
That is all.